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One of the many things I’ve learned about Keke Palmer over the last couple weeks is that she refuses to be boxed in. And her second collaboration with Fabletics reflects that. The mix of athleisure-meets-corporate-baddie captures the multitudes that Palmer contains. She’s a successful actress, and she’s also an amazing mom. She’s taking over Carson Daly as host on The Voice, and she also has a podcast. Palmer has won multiple Emmy Awards, and she’s also a certified Pilates instructor. Right in this very moment? She’s a two-time collaborator with Fabletics, and her newest line is designed for the woman who is all the things.

“This collection is a true reflection of who I am and how I live my life. Between my career, being a mom and making time for my wellness routine, I’m always looking for pieces that let me do it all without sacrificing style or comfort,” Palmer says in an official press release from Fabletics.

Ahead of the Fabletics x Keke Palmer launch, Palmer and I chatted on the phone about all things motherhood, identity, what “having it all” means to her, and the worst piece of parenting advice she’s gotten (I think ALL of the moms can relate to this one—I know I can).

SheKnows: Has becoming a mom changed the way that you shop and dress and think about comfort versus glamour?

Keke Palmer: Yes. So it’s changed the way that I shop and dress, probably because I end up shopping for [my three-year-old son, Leo] more than I shop for myself. I don’t find myself necessarily buying as many new things as I used to.

A lot of times, I’m not like, spending time with myself, and so it’s interesting that glamour has become not just necessarily makeup and hair—although I really do like those things—but just the the practice of getting dolled up and self caring. You know, it feels like that kind of joy of just getting dressed up and “playing” dress-up.

It’s making sure that he knows that sometimes I’m going to disappoint him, sometimes Dad’s going to disappoint him, sometimes Grandma’s going to get on his nerves. But at the end of the day, I’m here to supply him in the best way, to regulate [him] and be able to support him as a human being who will learn and live and grow and expand. And also just thinking about him as an extension of me. Like, Girl, I cannot tell you how the other day I was his plus-one when I’m with the school moms! When I’m with the school mom community, a community I wouldn’t have known if it wasn’t for my son, and I take so much pride in leaning into the things that I only would have had access to because of my son. His world matters.

I really just am so grateful for that, because my whole life has been about me. My career [has gotten] so huge. Unfortunately, a lot of my siblings’ and my parents’ life became revolved around “KekeKekeKeke,” and so it’s so amazing that I’m at a point in my life in which I can move through it with more clarity [and duality]. I have a son whose life I’m so excited to pour into and learn about and be able to become anew through that.

SK: I’m literally going to my daughter’s daycare prom on Saturday. Isn’t that unhinged and lovely?

KP: There’s literally nothing more exceptional and fun than rolling into their world. Like when I tell you that me and the moms from my son’s school, Girl, we’re doing everything together. I think one of them has a sauna in her house. We be going into the sauna! I feel like I’m in the ‘burbs; I feel like I’m actually in my own TV show.

SK: Is there a version of having it all that you don’t believe in anymore?

KP: Yeah, there is. And I guess the “all” is like a part of it because it’s like, why did you need it? I just think that women are unfortunately judged not by how successful they are, or the things they do, or even the community they have, or how incredible their kids are. A lot of times, we’re defined by how well our relationship went, or if we’re in a relationship at all, you know, or if we got divorced, or if we were never ever married, and I just feel like that is such a big part of “having it all,” and I think having it all is whatever you wanted. It’s subjective.

It’s like going to a buffet and [hearing from someone else], “you didn’t put everything on your plate.” Well, I didn’t fucking want everything. I only wanted the mashed potatoes and the meatloaf. But you’re telling me that I didn’t enjoy my meal because I didn’t get the spaghetti and the Alfredo and the garlic bread. Yeah, maybe I didn’t want all those carbs, Boo. “Having it all” for us—for women—it really should be defined by whatever the “all” that we wanted. Not to mention on top of that, love and relationships shouldn’t be such a centerpiece in what that “all” is.

SK: Best piece of parenting advice—and worst—that you’ve received?

KP: The best piece [of advice], I remember Jimmy [Fallon] saying to me: “You don’t need any advice. You already know what you’re doing because that’s why you got the job.” That’s the best advice for any mom because when you become a mom, you realize what the fuck is the advice that you’re gonna give me for a baby you don’t even know? So many people try to give you advice based off of not knowing how much money you have. What kind of baby you have. They try to say too much when they don’t even have enough information to really be saying anything at all. And so, I think the worst advice I’ve gotten is from people who try to give you anything unsolicited. I think that’s the meanest thing you can do to a mom because we are all just so stressed, anyway. Do what you think is best. Anybody who’s not saying that, I’m done with.

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