On this episode of The Deep State, John Kiriakou sits down with popular Catholic youtuber and prolific author Tim Gordon. John asks Tim what inspired him to study Catholic philosophy and how that guides his political thought. The two also discuss the importance of Aristotle for the western tradition of thought and whether or not the eastern and western churches can ever reunite.

On The Deep State, John Kiriakou brings all of his experience and knowledge to bear, analyzing the latest geopolitical and domestic news. From spy rings to Middle East conflicts, administration infighting to whistleblowing, John brings you the latest information so you too can know what it’s like from the inside of The Deep State.