Brent Spiner and Jonathan Frakes are Star Trek royalty, having played Data and William Riker respectively in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

But now, they're hosting a new podcast together — Dropping Names with Brent and Johnny.

How have these two Enterprise-ing actors stayed friends this long, and what's the secret to a long-lasting friendship with a colleague?

Paul Verhoeven sat down with Brent and Johnny to find out.